Hypnosis Doesn't Work

[Jon Rhodes]

I recently attempted to submit an article about hypnotherapy to an exercise related website that I will not name. I received a reply stating that they would never publish the article because nobody should ever use hypnosis. I wrote back asking for the reasons why they felt this way. Here is the response I received....

"If you understand how the mind works you know that the unconscious mind is not helpful to the person, it contains only buried memories of pain and upset, it works as a stimulus response mind and is not under the persons control.

Anything wrong with the person (fears, compulsions, repressions, etc.) comes from his unconscious mind.

To implant commands into a persons unconscious mind is just adding to the problem.

If you want to help someone you don't put them to sleep you wake them up by strengthening the conscious mind. Education, observation in the present, problem solving exercises, etc.

Or by uncovering the buried memories in the unconscious mind and making them part of conscious memory again, reverse hypnotism if you will.

Any of the above would not involve being put to sleep, drugs, trance or relaxation techniques the person must be fully awake and alert."


Anyone have any thoughts on this? I understand about the education, observation and problem solving being helpful, but I'm wondering what they actually know about hypnotherapy! They come from a stance that they are very knowledgeable, yet seem to think a person is asleep when in trance. Thoughts?

[Jill Semonin CHt]

Un-educated responses of those that did not do any research, or listened to people whom did no research.

My guess....

[Joshua Houghton]

Hi Jon,

Nice to see you my friend. This is just another example of someone not educated in how hypnosis can really help people. Maybe they just read a few articles from someone who thought they knew what they were talking about and now they have some strange ideas about hypnosis. It sounds like they have a very, very limited understanding of hypnosis at best.

I receive responses from my blog all the time that are similar to this one. I just use chances like these to reply with my answer in a polite way and then try to educate them and then leave it at that. I don't push the issue. Interesting response though. I better make sure I don't submit an article to whoever this person is.

[Jon Rhodes]

Yeh, I was just surprised at how they held themselves out to be such an expert, yet seemed to know so little! Nice to see you too Josh. I was just on your blog making a comment about Uri Geller only a few minutes ago!

[Fable Goodman]

sounds pretty much like they have been reading one of L Ron Hubbards books.

This is almost exactly the Scientology line on hypnosis.

I would leave them to it, and take the article elsewhere.

Love and hugs,

Fable

[Jon Rhodes]

Ah Ron Hubbard - about as truthful as Uri Geller!! Yeh, that's exactly what I'm going to do Fable. The funny thing was that I only mentioned hypnosis once in my article, and somehow provoked quite a rigid stance on hypnosis.

"I am sorry but I would never put this artcile on my site, hypnosis is not something that anyone should use."

Perhaps this person is a Scientologist?!

[claymore58]

Thinking like that is why it's incumbent upon hypnotists to explode myths and educate people,
one by one of necessary.
Considering daily life contains one kind of trance or another,the person is obviously misinformed.
I wasn't aware scientology was against hypnosis,thanks for the tidbit!

[Joshua Houghton]

If I remember correctly L Ron Hubbard had hypnosis training. I agree life is pretty much an endless trance. I remember a while back I saw a documentary on sicencetology a few months ago that showed the connection with hypnosis. I just can't remember the name of it. Maybe that means I'm in trance now!

Joshua Houghton

[Fable Goodman]

You are absolutely correct Joshua.

Hubbard asked a fellow science fiction writer, (who was also a hypnotist) to help him put together some therapy techniques to use in a science fiction novel he was writing . They combined current hypnosis practices with freudian ideas, Carl Jung's ideas on word ascosciation and technology like the Galvanic skin response meter, and came up with a fictional healing technique called Dianetics.

After Hubbard wrote the story, and people liked it.... He turned the whole thing into a psueudo religeous therapy cult.

However although Hubbard used hypnosis himself, in various ways, (as many cult leaders do) he did not want his followers to have that advantage, so he wrote strongly against hypnosis, (using varioius stereotypical misunderatndings about the dangers of hypnosis (which he may or may not have believed himself) and banned it's use. Even though it is abundantly clear to anyone who understands hypnosis, that scientology uses many hypnotic processes.


Unlike Claymore... I do not agree that "incumbent upon hypnotists to explode myths and educate people,
one by one of necessary." I explode myths with those who I choose, particularly with clients. but I am not a missionary, put on earth to convert the masses to my way of thinking.

LOve and hugs,


Fable

[Rick Crockett]

I guess this is an interesting proof that "a little knowlege is a dangerous thing. " It is true that negatives tend to overwhelm the unconsious and create a situation of "Toxic Programming." But then that is what hypnosis is for, to bypass the concious mind and deal with the problems without having to reawaken all those negatives. The consious mind will stall and start chewing on every problem that comes to mind. That is bad for the soul and bad for the body.

Hypnosis saved my life and I have had success in saving others. The ability to deal with pain, moderate it down to a warning while helping the body and soul heal is invaluable. As a catharsis, I wrote about one of my most painful life experiences. That helped so much but hypnosis from Thomas's mother allowed me to continue to face the world with a hope I had lost. Anyone thinking merely reawakening old injuries is the solution is sadly mistaken. I still have some issues and Stella had wanted to use amnesia. I wanted to remember in an attempt to reason out what had happened. I might have been better to let her take those memories. Sometimes there is no reason for what happens and trying to sort things out in the consious mind becomes an exercise in futility. Persuading your publisher might be another one....

Best o Luck

Rick C. Bentized Not enough!

[John Sannicandro]

Dr. Fred Hatfield a powerlifting champ and Phd. in exercise physiology, Tiger Woods, former heavyweight champ Ken Norton and others would disagree. Hatfield recommends self hypnosis, Norton beat Ali and his career took off after hypnosis, and Woods has his own hypnotherapist.

Do us all a favor and name the website. Why protect such backward thinkers?

John
www.jslmhc.com

[James Hazlerig]

It's another case of what I humbly call "Hazlerig's Law": The more someone rails against hypnosis, the greater the likelihood that they are using it.

James

Fable Goodman said:

You are absolutely correct Joshua.

Hubbard asked a fellow science fiction writer, (who was also a hypnotist) to help him put together some therapy techniques to use in a science fiction novel he was writing . They combined current hypnosis practices with freudian ideas, Carl Jung's ideas on word ascosciation and technology like the Galvanic skin response meter, and came up with a fictional healing technique called Dianetics.

After Hubbard wrote the story, and people liked it.... He turned the whole thing into a psueudo religeous therapy cult.

However although Hubbard used hypnosis himself, in various ways, (as many cult leaders do) he did not want his followers to have that advantage, so he wrote strongly against hypnosis, (using varioius stereotypical misunderatndings about the dangers of hypnosis (which he may or may not have believed himself) and banned it's use. Even though it is abundantly clear to anyone who understands hypnosis, that scientology uses many hypnotic processes.


Unlike Claymore... I do not agree that "incumbent upon hypnotists to explode myths and educate people,
one by one of necessary." I explode myths with those who I choose, particularly with clients. but I am not a missionary, put on earth to convert the masses to my way of thinking.

LOve and hugs,


Fable

[claymore58]

That's essentially what I meant,my bad,if I didn't clarify that enough.
In one of the chat rooms I frequent,a lot of hypno curious people ask about it.
While I don't consider myself a "missionary",if the topic comes up,I do state my views.

Fable Goodman said:

You are absolutely correct Joshua.

Hubbard asked a fellow science fiction writer, (who was also a hypnotist) to help him put together some therapy techniques to use in a science fiction novel he was writing . They combined current hypnosis practices with freudian ideas, Carl Jung's ideas on word ascosciation and technology like the Galvanic skin response meter, and came up with a fictional healing technique called Dianetics.

After Hubbard wrote the story, and people liked it.... He turned the whole thing into a psueudo religeous therapy cult.

However although Hubbard used hypnosis himself, in various ways, (as many cult leaders do) he did not want his followers to have that advantage, so he wrote strongly against hypnosis, (using varioius stereotypical misunderatndings about the dangers of hypnosis (which he may or may not have believed himself) and banned it's use. Even though it is abundantly clear to anyone who understands hypnosis, that scientology uses many hypnotic processes.


Unlike Claymore... I do not agree that "incumbent upon hypnotists to explode myths and educate people,
one by one of necessary." I explode myths with those who I choose, particularly with clients. but I am not a missionary, put on earth to convert the masses to my way of thinking.

LOve and hugs,


Fable