Hypnosis, NLP to Overcome Masturbation Addiction...

[Doreen Cohanim C.Ht]

Hello Gang,

I have a client who is seeking my help, he needs help with excessive masturbation, he had done it since age 13, now 38 and no medical condition, his masturbation becomes an addiction and it starts taking time away from his work, relationship, etc...

I do have so experience helping with addiction, and wanted to ask for different ideas or opinion that may have worked for you with your clients, so I can compare notes and help my client in the best way I can.

I have advised my client that his excessive masturbation can also be stress related, since stress can increase as well as decrease sexual desire. due to the fact that masturbation is linked to stress reduction, when masturbating is often used as a de-stress-or. and my client did agree that it is a de-stress-or, and that he is also really does enjoy it, only that he says It is too much.

Would love to get some feedback while I am working on my client addiction.
Respectfully, Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

[Al Whitton]

Absolutley Dor,

If he messes you about in emails, he may well do so in RL!

Good luck, be strong, trust your unconscious and kick ass!


Al
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:

Hi Henxy,

I agree with what you said, but this guy actually says, that he does enjoy it, his excuse is that he is investing more time in masturbation then other important things, such as work, family, etc...

I am still waiting for him to get back to me with some answers, since he kept skipping some questions, and before I am going to see him for a live session, I want to make sure he is sincere, since some people act as if they want help, while they really are looking for something else, If you know what I mean, so I am waiting, and If he is going to bombard me with emails not answering all other questions, then, I am not going to see him or even to help him... and I usually know what to ask to get into the bottom line...

and when they Ignore the trick questions, then I know better not to deal with them...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht,HBCE

[Doreen Cohanim C.Ht]

Thanks Al :)

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

[Henxy]

The chap I was talking about said he enjoyed it, too. He described his 'need' as 'a healthy appetite'.
Some people think that by deceiving (or trying to) 'you', that they're succeeding, and being clever- almost like fighting the system.

[Doreen Cohanim C.Ht]

Humm, again I have to agree with you Henxy, lol, let him think he is being clever, but I have the feeling by now he knows I am much more clever then him lol...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

[Mr Green]

A question that springs to mind is, why would this client arrange appointments then mess you around? The only answer can be is that someone else has twisted his arm to go for 'help' in that case it could be completely different, i think.

Paul~

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:

Humm, again I have to agree with you Henxy, lol, let him think he is being clever, but I have the feeling by now he knows I am much more clever then him lol...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

[Doreen Cohanim C.Ht]

OK, I think I am getting somewhere, based to his answers, he says, that he feel its excessive based on his standards, but based to what he investigated, it's actually normal... He masturbates a minimum of three times a day and its hard to determine a total amount in a day since, as he does it frequently, Hummm ( so I am a little confused, is it total of three times or more?, do you guys get what I get? )

His routine is, He'll start in the morning where it can last from a 1/2 an hour to a full hour and sometimes even two... and he does it throughout the day for extended periods since he work from home, and after he's done work, he keeps masturbating for hours until he go's to bed.

No partner, I will find out how long, and If it is a male partner or female partner, since he is not answering my questions fully, not sure if it is important, but it could be, what do you think?

Oh, the reason he does not have partner is because of time management, since all he thinks is about masturbating, so as soon as he done working, he does the masturbation...

He did ask to have a hypnotic CD that would he could use at home so he can masturbate during the listening of the mp3, so he could have an orgasm while listening to the mp3. OF Course I said No, and his excuse was, so he wouldn't be spending of his "free time" on masturbating, so he can do other things. Whatever... I am not intending to do that, and I made it very clear that it won't happen, and if he tries anything stupid, I would stop the session, as he reacts or tries to do anything involving masturbation, orgasms, etc.

So before you guys warn, I KNOW Better, trust me when I was new, some jerk tried to do just that, and that is when I gave the suggestion, Now you are paralyzed, and each and every time you try, your body will be paralyzed... BOOM... and that client never ever tried that again, and I never seen him again, I just refused to work with him.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht,HBCE
www.HypnoCruise.com

[Susan French]

Ask the guys but I don't think even 3 times a day wouldn't seem so excessive even for a 38 yr old.

I HAVE had guys think they are masturbating too much and when you question them, they're just a little on the excessive side. My question is the same for this as for any excessive habit or addiction:1) is it interfering with your life in a significant way and 2) do you find that you can't stop.

Sometimes guys like to engage a "therapist" in "discussing their masturbation because they get off on it. Those guys are usually pretty obvious to me but you never know. This guy sounds suspect. I'm glad you decided not to work with him.

I had a client recently who came to me for a "sex addiction" and was even a member of Sex Addicts Anonymous. When I questioned him, he believed that masturbation was wrong and that he should only have sex with his wife (in person). He traveled a lot.

I suggested that he might want to rethink his goal. I thought he was trying to swim upstream (no pun intended) and trying to work too much against nature.

Lord, O Lord. How do we move out of Victorian thinking?

Just my experience and thoughts.

[Doreen Cohanim C.Ht]

Thanks Susan,

OK, he did already said that it is:
1) interfering with his life in a significant way.
2) And he can't stop it.

I agreed to work with him on my terms, and will have him sign a contract, I am going to see him tomorrow, will let you know how it went.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
www.HypnoCruise.com

[ricky strode]

maybe make things more manageable to him see things in smaller steps vs the bigger picture. You could run through what happens that triggers the action and setup a new decisions in that so it no longer is a reation, but a choice if picked. Follow up in a week to see if it still is a problem. Probally won't be unless something was missed and if it was then atleast you have a good place to start.

[JADE~ Pamela Scott aka HYPNOJADE]

Hi Doreen, Your key words were that this "addiction" as interfering with his work, relationship etc.

"Excessive" masterbation is considered a "sexual addiction", described as interfering with work, relationships, intimacy as well as the action no longer becomes "pleasureable". Also, a lot of guilt and perhaps a negative sexual experience is reported. (Dr. Drew Pinskey). At the risk of sounding like I am actually experienced with this subject, I must confess I am watching Conan O'Brien, the talk show host who has Dr. Pinkskey . who happens to be on as I opened up your comment. I believe in serendipity...;D

Surfice to say, my first thought was stress, avoidance in participating in life actively and using this medium as a distraction. Often times with just a a basic short reason why someone is seeking hypnosis over the phone without getting a full interview and therefore, not make any judgements (like I just "thought") without more information.
Since you have experience with addiction and as a hypnotist, once you get further information with your client I am confident that you will intuitively and knowledgably "handle" the situation.
I think it is quite admirable that someone would contact you for hypnosis and help. I would also take into consideration that he is contacting a woman, and may feel safer with this "admission"???
If it wasn't a problem he wouldn't be making an appointment. So, if it is real for the client, it must be real. We not only hypnotize, we de-hypnotize to create better lives. Good trancing...
KISS JADE

[JADE~ Pamela Scott aka HYPNOJADE]

Sorry, I didn;t get all of the other posts you wrote, interesting....you are braver then me, I would have referred him out to someone else.
KISS JADE

[Doreen Cohanim C.Ht]

JADE, No I am not brave lol, I just know how to go around it :)

I am ready to work with my client, got all the answers I needed before I agreed to work with him :), of course we all know that they are reasons why people masturbate excessively, and this is what I am planing to find out, and this is the Why question. Why he turns to masturbation? Is he escaping somethimng else? When someone says it feels good, we must know, that this is not the real Why... and like I said, this is what I am going to dig for within his feelings.
This is whre he needs the therapy for, I mean the Hypnotherapy for.

Doreen Cohanim C..Ht